# Ellen Roseman, CBC and the New Math

Ellen Roseman, a personal finance columnist for the Toronto Star, was on The National tonight. The special segment, which may be still be posted here, asked the question: “Why aren’t Canadians saving enough for retirement?”

Well, one reason is because we do not know how much to save. Ellen tells us that we should look at the income that we think we will need at retirement and multiply that amount by 20. That amount, if taken out at a safe withdrawal rate of 4 percent, should produce the desired income without fear of outliving the capital.

The example is captured below. To produce \$50,000 per year, you multiply that amount by 20. And you arrive at \$2 million. Hmmm.

I guess Ellen Roseman and the CBC do not know how much to save for retirement either.

What was most interesting is that neither the anchor nor the columnist showed any surprise at the result. I guess they did not have a calculator with them.

\$2 million.

Yes. That should shock the viewers into saving for retirement. Who cares whether the math makes sense. \$50,000 times 20 is \$2 million. Job done. On to the next story.

4 replies
1. Allen Woolfrey says:

I suspect the CBC does not hire math or economics majors.

I listened to an episode of “As It Happens” many years ago, and it was absolutely clear that the host did not know the difference between Canada’s deficit and debt.

If I were Prime Minister (a scary thought for many), potential voters would have to pass a test to qualify for a vote. “Explain the difference between a country’s deficit and debt” would be one of the questions.

Cheers, Al.

2. Stephen Meyer says:

So do I actually need 40 times the annual withdrawl, or \$100,000 a year?

Would you agree that a multiplier of 20 is reasonable? Your 4% is only \$40,000 in the first year if you have \$1M. And are you calculating interest on your \$1M? Just wondering how you’re working it out.

Thanks,

Steve

• Stephen Meyer says:

So many numbers? Or one BIG number!?!

That’s my retirement scheme, ONE BIG NUMBER. That’s exactly how much you need to save 🙂

Steve