Sell Shoes

In 1977 Carl Reiner directed the movie Oh, God! starring George Burns. Burns won a Best Supporting Actor Oscar in the role. I remember one scene in the movie where George Burns, cast as the Almighty, comes down hard on the lavish lifestyle of a religious leader: “If he wants to make money, tell him to sell shoes.”

I had read the concerns raised by Wall Watchers on the Joyce Meyer organization a few days back. The main concern was whether the Joyce Meyer organization should operate as a church or a public charity. Operating as a public charity affords more financial transparency to ensure appropriate governance and Wall Watchers believes that the Joyce Meyer organization is not operating a congregational church. They also challenge her excessive lifestyle and questionable ministry expenses.

I then came across the current mess with Clint Brown of Faithworld. Yet another story of lavish lifestyles and questionable expenses paid for by donations.

Clint Brown is a preacher and motivational speaker, and he is a successful songwriter. He has written and published over 250 praise and worship songs. He has released 14 albums and he has hit the top 10 list in Praise and Worship distribution charts.

He is the CEO of Tribe Music Group which owns and operates a recording studio as well as a publishing and distribution company.

He is also a pastor of a large church in Orlando, Florida. In less than 10 years Faithworld has grown to over 6,000 members.

This was the article that I came across at ReligionNewsBlog:

FaithWorld has bought a $500,000 parsonage for its embattled pastor, Clint Brown, in what the church’s attorney says was a vote of confidence in the congregation’s leader.

The church bought the house in the gated Park Springs development in southwest Orlando last month. Brown, a nationally known recording artist, has been the focus of media reports in the past two weeks related to a messy divorce case that revealed a lavish lifestyle.

Brown also is named in a suit alleging that $200,000 lent to the church was not returned. Both sides in that dispute agreed that the money was intended to purchase or build a new home for the church. But FaithWorld attorney Mark Matthew O’Mara said Monday that the money instead went into the church’s general fund.

O’Mara said the church’s Dec. 16 purchase of the four-bedroom, three-bath house for Brown on Park Springs Circle “was obviously a vote of confidence. More significantly, it was the appropriate fiscal decision for the church to own a piece of property rather than pay rent on one.”

He said the congregation also made “substantial improvements” on the property.

The church also is paying $7,000 monthly mortgage payments on a $1.4 million home in Alaqua Lakes, a gated Longwood community where Brown lived with his wife, Angela, until February 2003, when they separated.

O’Mara said the church is studying whether it is proper to make payments on two residences for their pastor. Also under examination are credit-card charges by Clint and Angela Brown that were paid by the church.

Neither the Browns nor their attorneys could be reached for comment Monday.

Angela Brown’s divorce filing provides a listing of the couple’s assets, including three Mercedes-Benzes, a Porsche Carrera, a Hummer, a Ford F-150 pickup, a Volkswagen Beetle and two Harley-Davidson motorcycles. Several of the couple’s vehicles were paid for by the congregation.

The court documents also shed light on the couple’s spending.

On a visit to Diamond Quasar Jewels of New York in August 2002, Clint Brown spent $8,800. Other purchases were recorded at tony shops and spas in Bal Harbour; Scottsdale, Ariz.; Las Vegas; and Beverly Hills, Calif. Angela Brown spent more than $1,000 at Victoria’s Secret and nearly $10,000 for shoes at a Dallas store.

Using his wife’s Platinum American Express card, Clint Brown spent $85 at a San Diego Hooters on Jan. 24, 2003, according to court documents. Tattoos and tanning-salon sessions also were charged, along with nearly $1,000 in wine from a Heathrow shop.

In the divorce suit, Angela Brown also said that in one year, her husband charged more than $70,000 in women’s clothes on an American Express card and that neither she nor her daughter received any of the clothing.

O’Mara said that if an examination of the pastor’s credit cards found that some of the charges were for personal expenses, they would be taxable as personal income.

In addition to the divorce controversy, Clint Brown has been sued by Deborah Mitchell, a former church member who said he failed to return a $200,000 loan she made to the church in 1999.

The church maintains the money was a gift to the congregation. Mitchell’s attorney, Howard Marks, acknowledged that there was no written agreement defining the transaction. There were no witnesses to the discussion between Clint Brown and Mitchell, according to the suit.

O’Mara acknowledged that the money originally was intended to buy or build a new home for the church, which was then in Apopka.

“They were looking at a piece of property and building to expand the church,” O’Mara said, until televangelist Benny Hinn decided to move from the Forest City property to Dallas. FaithWorld acquired the property by assuming the $5.8 million debt.

When that happened, O’Mara said, the $200,000 went into the church’s general fund “at a time when they were expanding and incurring a lot of expenses” after the move from Apopka to Forest City Road west of Maitland.

Despite the recent revelations, support for Clint Brown has remained strong among the estimated 6,000 members who fill FaithWorld’s seats.

Janet Thompson, a member of the congregation, said Monday that she supports last month’s purchase of the parsonage for her pastor.

“Great. I’m happy about that. He deserves it,” Thompson said. “I would go to the ends of the Earth for a man of God who deserves it.”

Perhaps Clint should focus on selling shoes.

20 replies
  1. Ben King
    Ben King says:

    I go to faithworld and believe that these things he may buy are a little over the top, and maybe he shouldn’t spend so much, and be consumed by his material lifestyle… BUT! If you could see his church in person you would know he is a good man with problems like everyone else but he’s still a great pastor and I think its just like the christian church to point a finger at the first wrong thing they see in a pastors life and then all the great things he’s ever done are overlooked!!!

    -Ben King
    12th grade
    Orlando, FL

  2. richard cleaver
    richard cleaver says:

    Hi Ben. Thanks for your comment.

    Most Christian leaders resist lavish lifestyles and most Christian leaders honor their marriages.

    According to the Bible, Christian leaders who pursue lavish lifestyles and destroy their own marriages are not great pastors.

    From 1 Timothy 3:

    1Here is a trustworthy saying: If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer, he desires a noble task. 2Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, selfcontrolled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect. 5(If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God”™s church?) 6He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. 7He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil”™s trap.

  3. Sarah, Orlando, FL
    Sarah, Orlando, FL says:

    I think that maybe people should stop being so judgmental and point fingers at others wrongdoings. In addition to the Bible verse you provided to Ben, people are also told to not judge one another lest ye be judged. What right do you have to judge Pastor Clint Brown, a very noble man of God? Do you know him on a very personal basis? Do you know his heart? Do you know the details of exactly what happened? You may judge him from the outside and say that he is a lover of money, but he is not. God never said there was anything wrong with having money, in fact he wants his people to obtain wealth (not just physical, mental, and spiritual) so that it is used for his kingdom; which is what Pastor Clint Brown does. Do you even know how much money and monetary possesions he gives away freely? What you reap is what you sow. It works in the secular world also. I know non-Christians who are very blessed because the principle works for all. The more you give, the more you get. And you see; the more my pastor gets, the more he gives away. I live a lifestyle similar to his, yet I am continually giving to those I come into contact with. You do not know the true details of what occured with him and his wife. You do not know the immense pain this man of God has gone through the past 3 years of his life. I do. I know. But I guess that’s because I truly know him and I love him. It is not very God-like to try to air others’ dirty laundry, especially if the facts aren’t even all true. What is God-like is to pray for our leaders…and yes, he is still a leader and yes, God is still using him to touch thousands of lives all over the world. I do not want nor need a reply from you. I just feel that your website is just a display center for you to complain about things and try to make people look bad. And oh a part of a story from the Bible..he who has no sin cast the first stone…did you know that not one stone was cast? God was trying to say to not be so quick to judge another. We all have sins and secrets from our lives that we aren’t proud of. But guess what? God can use anyone who is willing, able, and who has truly repented for their sins. If one studies the Bible, they will see that God used an adulterer, a murderer, a liar, a deceiver, a doubter, (need I go on?) to touch others and minister to others lives. Just because you may have never dealt with the same problems as my pastor, please don’t think it’s ok to judge him or his character. No one but God has that right. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Thank you and God Bless.

  4. Sarah, Orlando, FL
    Sarah, Orlando, FL says:

    And oh… I meant to add in about the fact that he is not a lover a of money that the Bible tells us to not love money, but it never says that having a lot of money is wrong…it is the love of money that is wrong. He does not love money…he gives it away. God blesses us so that we are able to be a blessing to others. He does not give us more than He can trust us with. And also, let’s look at a briefe history of Pastor Clint Brown. He came to Orlando, FL to pastor with nothing…no money…just a vision from God. He left what would be a secure job, house, etc. to do what God called him to do. Most of his first expensive material things were given to him as gifts and since then he has become very blessed and constantly gives away things of his own and much much more. The church does not pay for his lifestyle, nor has he ever tried to hide God’s blessings. Much of his income, if one truly knew him, would know that it comes a lot from his 13 plus CD’s that he has sold, the hundreds of praise and worship songs sold, the fact that he travles all over the country to minister in preaching and song, and personal investments that he has made. If you truly knew him you would know that he gives away more than anyone I know personally and from the media. He has a great love for people and is always helping others in need through monetary gifts, words of encouragement, song, prayer, acts of love, etc. He is a true giver. You would also know that he loves his family immensely and is a great father and was a great husband to his wife and that he did everything he could to make things work even though he was the one who was hurt. It’s always good to know the facts before you judge, but even then God does not want us to judge..nor gossip about others…especially in times of great pain.

  5. Richard Cleaver
    Richard Cleaver says:

    Hello Sarah.

    I have already responded to similar points of view. And I will post it here for your benefit. Thanks for your comment.

    Who are we to judge? And, to whom is anyone held to account on this world? The latter point is what we are discussing. Christian leaders who behave this way must be held to account. They will be judged by God for their actions.

    My opinions on this item are not judgements. They are opinions. The two are very different. His case is in the public domain. And his lifestyle is excessive. And I have an opinion on it. As do you. Let’s keep the discussion on that level.

    You might want to crack open a bible and take a look in there for the principles on leadership and accountability. You will find many references to accountability. I”™ll throw a couple here as an attempt to provoke your thinking.

    First, what is the standard for Christian leadership?

    Leaders in Christian ministry need to go the extra mile to avoid even the perception of excessive and lavish spending.

    From Matthew Chapter 6:

    19Lay not up for yourselves treasures on the earth, where rust and the moth consume, where thieves break through and steal. 20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither rust nor moth consumes, and where thieves do not break through nor steal. 21For where your treasure shall be, there will also your heart be.

    The standard for Christian leadership is high. From 1 Timothy 3:

    1Here is a trustworthy saying: If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer, he desires a noble task. 2Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, selfcontrolled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect. 5(If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God”™s church?) 6He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. 7He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil”™s trap.

    Here is another segment from Titus:

    Titus 1:5-9

    5The reason I left you in Crete was that you might straighten out what was left unfinished and appoint[a] elders in every town, as I directed you. 6An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. 7Since an overseer[b] is entrusted with God”™s work, he must be blameless”“not overbearing, not quicktempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. 8Rather he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. 9He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

    In scripture, examples for accountability are seen on every level of leadership. Moses was held accountable; godly kings were subject to accountability; elders in the church are held accountable to the pastor and each other; pastors are accountable to the elders and even the apostles were held accountable by elders and each other. No one was exempt from accountability.

    In error, some think that because the pastor is the head of the local body that he is accountable to God alone, but scripture teaches a different doctrine. If the apostles whom God used to write scripture were held accountable, and the great biblical leaders who led God”™s people had accountability, why would we think that a pastor would not be? The first symptom of a spiritual struggle in a leader is the desire to break off accountability. Ungodly leaders in the Old Testament rejected accountability and even godly leaders like King David rejected accountability before falling into sin.

    References:
    Galatians 2:14-18
    Ecclesiastes 4:9-12
    Exodus 18:12-24
    2 Samuel 19:2-8
    Acts 17:10
    Acts 15:6
    1 Kings 22
    2 Samuel 24:1-13

  6. john doe
    john doe says:

    I’ll discreetly say I know more than pretty much anybody about Pastor Brown and his lifestyle. In the beginning it was great in Apopka. People still do support him that is accurate. The fact is….those that were with him in the beginning have either left or they are still there and dependent on him. You either stand for what’s right and walk away as I did, or continue to sell out to a man whos church pays your car payment, gives you a gas card, or simply puts you on a ridiculous salary to keep himself surrounded by people that will stroke his ego. It’s rather simple you see. Rather than a vision, I think it’s more of a business plan. Step 1 Appear wealthy. Step 2 Present to those who desire to be wealthy a get rich quick plan. Step 3 Take full advantage of those giving and maintain it until they decide to bolt…then we’ll find other fools to replace them. His wife…….I’d hate to compete with 6000 people for his attention also…that’s even before they pay for his $100,000 car. You know….sometimes folks can take advantage of those hungry for change. It’s easy to say “look at me…give more and you can be like me”, when those giving are actually supporting you. For example….I’m gonna “bless” somebody with a Rolex….cause it’s time they buy me a new one. Maybe the faithful should be better “stewards” of their money and track their returns that he promises, cause you know he’s tracking what you give. I’ve heard the staff talk about what agenda makes for a good night (money) and who shouldnt be allowed to speak again because it doesn’t draw as much. Bottom line…he’s a great businessman. So where the guys at Enron and Worldcom. By the way…if anyone reads this and bumps into Pastor Brown, ask him if he’s ready to start that addition they began collecting for in 2002. Or if he’s added any other family members to the payroll…..All in all I think he does serve a purpose because at some point, good people realize by looking at him, that they don’t want to be like that. Then they trade in their hopes of Versace and Louis Vuitton for hopes of Forgivness and Eternity!

  7. jane doe
    jane doe says:

    I too have attended on and off for about 6 years (when I’ve been in Florida). I’ve seen up close and personal the giving. And yes he is a gifted musician and speaker. What I also see in the lifestyle is an open door that breeds Covetousness, Envy, Lust, Jealousy and Idolatry in its congregations. The closer you get to God the humbler you should become. He (GOD) must increase and I must decrease.

  8. keith
    keith says:

    I am a praise/worship leader at my church in NC. I had always enjoyed playing Mr. Brown’s music as it seemed so sincere and authentic. It was very good at getting the congregation into a worshipful attitude. When the opportunity arose to go see him “in concert” at a nearby church, I jumped at the opportunity.

    As I approached the church bldg. from the parking lot there was a stretch (white) limosine parked awkwardly in front of the main entrance that had never been there before. It was obviously meant as some type of symbol/message.

    When the service began , the church’s praise team opened with about a 25 min. set. Mr. Brown, while he was obviously in the bldg.(I saw his limo), did not see fit to join the concert/service until he was “up”.

    I tried hard to ignore the snobery and showmanship on parade because I WAS a fan of his work. The man proceeded to play 3 songs, preach for 3-5 minutes, and left the sanctuary. The Pastor was visibly dazed and confused by the turn of events. The entire congregation (including myself) thought he would soon return to “continue”. They took up an offering, and tried to ad-lib for a while re-emphasizing the points Mr. Brown had spoken on. After 20 min. or so, it became obvious that there would be no more of Mr. Brown. The Pastor had the musicians play a few more tunes and closed with prayer. Quite an odd evening.

    I am friends with the Pastor and sought him out to inquire about the odd behavior of his guest. I was almost wishing he had become extremely ill. After all, 400-500 people had turned out to see his “concert”. I was told that Clint was tired.

    I saw that he had changed out of his $900 suit into some equally trendy baggy jeans and ball cap and was standing behind the tape/CD table in the foyer. Almost ashamedly, I stood in line to get the latest offering (my wife insisted, and I didn’t get my fix from the 3 songs he played) When I finally got to the front and purchased a CD I realized that Mr. was not actually collecting any money as I’m sure it is below a limo-rider to transact but was there to sign autographs on the merchandise purchased. I guess it was the least he could do. When he asked me if I wanted him to sign my CD, he had to bend his neck back to make eye contact since the rim of his cap was pulled so ridiculously low. I took the immature but satisfying opportunity to tell him “No, thank you”. That was in 2002, I have refused to support his “ministry” in any way since then. His subsequent troubles will follow anyone with his poor character.

    It just baffles me that 6,000 suckers in Fla. would show up week after week to be treated that way. P.T. Barnum was right.

  9. Jane Doe
    Jane Doe says:

    In 2004, we had to replace our pastor due to immorality. A few months later our ex-pastor’s ex-wife suggested a guy named Israel Campbell for our new pastor. A lead musician at Faith World who new her told her he was awesome. He was Clint Brown’s youth pastor for three years. What has followed is arogant leadership, a lot of spending, disorganization, and very regular trips to other out of state churches to preach with collections of thousands of dollars. Not to mention the thousands that were collected for other visiting pastors to our church. We found out that he had filed bankruptsy just before coming to our church. When it was finalyzed he told the judge nothing of his new 100,000 dollar salary. We found out about it because one of our members works for the bankrupsy court. We could have had him prosecuted. He remains the pastor of what has become practically all new members. How do we fight this growing trend as churches. I left after finding out all of this. He sounds like he operates just like Clint. Are there christian websites where these type things can be reported? This has been so painful for so many and has caused many former members to question the leadership of all churches.

  10. Jane Doe
    Jane Doe says:

    P.S. I live in Wilson, NC and have seen Clint twice because of my former pastor. It was everything keith and john doe had to say. I could go on and on.

  11. DAVID K
    DAVID K says:

    God, please open the eyes of those willing to see the truth. Why are we on earth for? To LOVE one another- there’s no other commandment greater than this! To care and love for one another, thats the only reason why we are on earth for, and love is the answer.
    I’ve stopped going to church for 5 years now, and Im 21 years old. It is because I’ve been to churches around the world, I see the same thing over and over again, it is such a disgrace. Let me make this clear, to all the pastors out there. You chose this profession, to preach the gospel, the truth- to preach LOVE. Care for your congregation and love one another. And, you should live comfortably, not lavishly. It is a disgrace.. shame on you pastors who go off track from the truth, the bible, shame on you pastors who claim to preach the truth, and to love, but are actually treating this profession as a business, a way to live a wealthy lifestyle. For those of you who know the truth and the real answers, you should know that, business should never come into way of your commitment to God. Anything that you’ve earned from the business, give it to those who are needy. Live a humble lifestyle, it is really a disgrace. I speak from my heart, I am young but I know the truth, the reason to live, and I am speaking on behalf of many christians who are seeking The truth, only to be let down by what their leaders are doing. Repent yourself.. love is the only answer to everything. Care and shelter the homeless. Do not covet for material things for they blur your vision towards the truth. Be nice to others, please. FOR ALL OF YOU — MAY GOD BE WITH YOU….ALWAYS!!! GOD IS LOVE

    my email dave6dk@hotmail.com

  12. Sven
    Sven says:

    Mr. C, I would like a Porche. That way I can look cool while picking up your son from school so we can discuss spiritual matters. That will make his friends like me, I mean, make them want to come to church. What do you say? Oh… I like red, and I’m a fan of the 911 Turbo . I would hope for September delivery, being as that will give maximum impact for the school year. Thanks for your donation. (Perhaps the license plate could read “JC4U”?).

  13. Darryl
    Darryl says:

    I tried my best not to get caught up, but after reading all the rhetoric I cannot resist…

    I agree that the books of Timothy and Titus are accurate accounts of the ideal for leadership in our churches, but unfortunately it is also the case that the personality type that it takes to be a church leader that prepares sermons and speaks before growing crowds week after week comes with some weaknesses that often lead to egoism. I am a supporter of Clint Brown’s ministry, but not so much a supporter of his lavish lifestyle. While we can all go to great lenghts to sling darts and arrows at the man, it’s the ministry that we should all examine. So let’s take a closer look…

    1. How many people that posted all of these criticisms can honestly state that the congregation with whom they praise and worship is not at least 80% of a single racial group? If you ever visit Pastor Brown’s church you’ll find a diversity that you will rarely find anywhere else at 11am on a Sunday.

    2. How many people that posted all of these criticisms can honestly state that they have personally witnessed large crowds of teens walking great distances early on Sunday morning to get to their church? Faithworld has a youth ministry that continues to attract teens, and incidentally that fund he had been collecting since 2002 went towards building a gymnasium and youth worship facility specifically for that purpose.

    3. How many people that posted all these criticisms has a pastor that doesn’t care whether or not its church members are tithers? I think with the exception of a few particularly wealthy denominations, thithes and offerings are a much more effective fundraising method than selling chicken dinners and washing cars.

    One last question…

    4. How many people that posted all these criticisms can honestly say that they wouldn’t change a thing about their church given a chance? There’s no perfect church and no perfect pastor. I know of prominent mainstream pastors that despite everyone’s high esteem for them they are involved with mistresses and other illicit activities. I’ve seen them rise and I’ve seen them fall in pentacostal and mainstream churches alike…I’m sure we all have.

    Unfortunately, you’ll find that church disputes are as old as the Church itself. If you’ve read some of the disputes between the Apostles in the book of Acts, I think you know what I mean. Why would Paul (who by your standards as a murderer of Christians would never have gone on to be the most prolific Biblical writer in history) have to counsel the congregation at Corinth on aligning themselves for or against Apostles instead of purely with the Christ (1 Cor 3:22-23).

    I think we need to be prayerful that God would send a wise and mature mentor to guide Pastor Brown in a more right direction in his personal affairs so as not to bring reproach upon his church, but to purely discount the work of his ministry and the thousands of people who have worked on it and been touched by it would be going a little too far.

    Where Pastor Brown has fallen down is well stated in the very next passage, 1 Cor 4:1-2, “1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. 2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.” It is frequently the case that a simple man cannot live up to the divinity of his ministry. He’s been humbled by all that has transpired, so instead of stoning him, let’s pray he sins no more.

  14. Jane Doe
    Jane Doe says:

    Darryl, it’s funny how familiar all of your points sound. Although they make perfect sense, now that I have left a ministry like this one I, I see the control that the pastor had over his people by shaming them into accepting “weaknesses” and warning them not to have a “jezebel spirit” or “not to criticize the authority God has placed over you because the anointing flows from the head down”. That is why these ministries are allowed to continue by the elders. The congregation trusts the elders to hold the pastor accountible for their behavior, but these very charming pastors make “the least of these” feel so important ,for once in their lives, that they support him for all the “good” he has done. Dear Body of Christ, hear me, this is not what Jesus intended his bride, the church to look like when he returned. We are so swooned by a charming, charismatic “man” and wonderful entertainment and “feelings” after praise and worship that we are missing God’s true voice His people. That’s all I have been able decipher so far from what God is teaching me and my family through this experience. Thanks for reading. Christy Fulford

  15. Louis
    Louis says:

    Why is it when someone comes to the defense of a Pastor that they are blind but all the critical remarks are on the money? People please…. The guy above who claims to have had an expierience with Clint Brown is a joke. First of all I know him personally. I just so happened to stumble apon this blog accidently and couldn’t resist chimming in. None of you know Clint Brown. Your jumping waaaaaay of base.
    The reason his congregation is loyal to Pastor Brown is because they know the truth. The truth is that his Pastoral salary is 20% lower than the national average of churches his size and the majority of the money he EARNS is from royalties off of his over 300 songs he has written, his 16 cd’s he has produced, his 4 books he has written and the incredible travel schedule he keeps preaching and singing all over this nation. He could preach or sing somewhere in the world everyday of the year if he wanted to.
    He never requires to be picked up in a limo or flown private like some preachers or singers. Trust me, I have seen a lot of artists contract riders. He flies commercial and is picked up in whatever the church decides to pick him up in.
    His lifestyle is not indifferent to most gospel singers in the music industry.
    I have seen first hand on many, many occasions that Clint Brown give the love offering that was taken up for him and give it right back to the Pastor of that church. Many times…. But that will never be the story because it’s not dirt.

  16. nc
    nc says:

    Louis—Thank you!!!!! What a wonderful come back!!!! I couldn’t have put it better.
    It is so sad the things that people can not help but speculate what they think has happened. Bottom line Get Off Pastor Browns Back! He is a Godly Man. Touch not God’s Anointed!!!!

  17. Richard Cleaver
    Richard Cleaver says:

    Yes. Amazing comeback, Louis.

    As you so aptly point out, Clint Brown is a salesman. He sells religion in the form of songs, CDs, books and preaching.

    And, to your point, he does quite well at selling religion: 3 Mercedes, a Porsche, a Hummer, two Harleys, a million and a half dollar home.

    God’s Anointed One indeed.

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